How to Eliminate Hum and Buzz on your electric Cigar Box Guitar

Electrifying your cigar box guitar or other homemade instrument build can be a very rewarding experience. Being able to plug into an amp not only gives you more volume, but it opens the door to a huge range of effects that would not otherwise be available. And it is a proven fact that having a pickup in a guitar makes it easier to sell – being able to plug in and rock out evokes images of Eddie Van Halen and Slash and is sure to get any would-be rocker’s blood pumping.

Our Disc-o-Tone pre-wired harness is a great way to add a pickup to your build.

Our Disc-o-Tone pre-wired piezo pickup harness is a great way to add a low-hum pickup to your cigar box guitar. No soldering required!

In an ideal situation, electrifying your build is as simple as gluing in a piezo (or mounting in a magnetic pickup), wiring it to a jack, and bingo. You finish the build, plug it into an amp and it sounds great. Sometimes, that is exactly what happens. Those are the good times.

Unfortunately, sometimes it’s not so good. You finish your build, plug it into your amp, and… hummmmmmmmmmmmm. The dreaded 60-cycle hum. But wait, you say… the last build I did was just like this, and it didn’t hum! Or you think, this harness I bought from C. B. Gitty must be no good! That shyster! Fortunately there are some things you can do to minimize (and hopefully eliminate) hum and buzz in your guitar.

The exact causes of hum and buzz in electric guitar pickup circuits can be a very arcane and involved subject. I don’t claim to know everything about it, and there are plenty of other builders out there who may disagree with what I’m about to say, or who would offer their own tips. That’s fine, more power to them. My goal is just to give some pointers to people who want to know what to do. We have built hundreds of electrified CBGs in the C. B. Gitty workshop, and these are some of the methods that have worked for us.

  1. Pre-test your equipment. Whenever possible, get in the habit of testing your harness before it is installed in the box. For piezo harnesses, you can plug it into your amp and tap on the piezo or hold it against another instrument’s sound board with your fingers. Give the instrument a strum and you should hear sound through your amp. If the harness has a volume pot, test its full range. Strangely, sometimes a pickup harness will have no hum when it is not installed, but will once installed.
  2. Test your pickup circuit before finishing the instrument/sealing the box. Most of the tips and tricks below are a lot easier if the guitar hasn’t been sealed up. Get in the habit of testing your electronics before finishing the instrument. Even if it isn’t strung up yet, you should be able to tap over where the piezo is installed and hear sound through the amp. For magnetic pickups it’s a little trickier if the instrument isn’t strung up yet, but with a little dexterity and another guitar, you can have your new build plugged in to the amp, then quickly strum the second guitar and hold its strings over the pickup in your new build, and you should hear sound through the amp.
  3. Avoid creating wire coils. Any time a conductor (like the wire leads in your pickup circuit) is coiled, wacky things can happen. It can act like an antenna making the circuit more susceptible to outside interference from electric motors, fluorescent lights, etc. While it is tempting to wrap any excess wire lengths inside the instrument up into tight little coils, fight the urge and find other ways to deal with the problem.
  4. Pots are hum-prone. Adding a volume pot to a pickup circuit is a common cause of hum and buzz. Make sure that you ground to the back of the pot’s metal casing.
  5. Look around. Are there fluorescent lights right overhead? Anything else that might be producing electromagnetic noise? If so, try moving to a less electrically busy place and trying again. You might find the hum is reduced.
  6. Check your power source. To build on #5, your amp and its power source might be the cause of the buzz. AC (wall) power is inherently noisy and its 60 hertz frequency (in the US, 50 hertz elsewhere) can come through your amp as the “60-cycle hum”. If there are fluorescent lights or electric motors plugged into the same circuit as your amp, their electromagnetic noise can manifest itself through the speaker. Try plugging into different circuits in your house or workshop, and see if the noise reduces.
  7. Ground to the strings. If touching the metal shaft part of your output jack with your finger greatly reduces the amount of hum you are getting, then you definitely have a grounding problem. One common way to address this is to run a wire from the ground leg of your pickup circuit in such a way that it connects to your strings. This is a lot easier to do if you have a metal tailpiece… just run a discrete wire to the tailpiece, and once it’s strung up you should find that the hum is greatly reduced. If you don’t have a metal tailpiece but do have a metal saddle, you can run a lead to that. If you don’t have either of these, you’ll have to get creative in finding a way to add your strings to the ground circuit – it really can help.
  8. Move stuff around. If none of the above things help, if possible you should consider moving the components in your build around. As I said above, the whole topic of hum and buzz can be pretty arcane topic. Sometimes the same harness will hum in one build and not in another. Why? Heck if I know. But moving things around can sometimes help.
  9. Bad components? Possibly. It is always possible that bad components are to blame. At C. B. Gitty we pre-test every harness we make before it ships out, and we don’t ship out any that have hum problems. But if you bought from somewhere else or made your own harness, it’s always possible that a wiring fault (look for a single hair of wire going from hot to ground!) bad solder joint or bad component is to blame. Check your connections carefully and try swapping things out to see if you can isolate the cause.
  10. Replace it and try it in another build. If nothing else works, all you can really do is give up and try another harness. Save the hummer for another build if you’re an optimist.
  11. Check for grounded AC outlets. Here is tip from master cigar box guitar builder John Nickel of Nickel Cigar Box Guitars: “I always make sure the wall outlet is grounded first. You probably own a power strip with a ground light on it (if not, they are cheap). Once you know you have a grounded outlet, it’s always the guitar. Seems like a minor thing, but I had the home studio rewired last year … because of this. My build shop (where I test my cbgs) was grounded but when I brought my guitars home to record, I found out that certain rooms in my house were not. Good luck.”

I hope that these tips will help our customers work through issues of hum and buzz in their builds. If you have other tips that have worked for you, let us know and we’ll add to the list! Happy hum-free building!

Ben “C. B. Gitty” Baker

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4 thoughts on “How to Eliminate Hum and Buzz on your electric Cigar Box Guitar”

  1. A few weeks ago I finished my first three-string CBG. It has a piezo and a 500k log volume pot. If hooked up to my Vox mini 5 amp, it performs really good, but after 5 minutes or so, it starts buzzing and the volume goes down. The same with my other amp. I found out that when I pull the plug from the amp, short it with my thumb and plug it in again, the problem is gone, that’s to say, for another 5 minutes or so. It looks to me like there is some kind of static electricity building up in the piezo, which is somehow not leaking away through the pot (which connects to GND over 500 kOhm). Any suggestions how to fix this? Should I maybe replace the pot with a smaller resistance one?

  2. Dear Mark et al:

    The introduction of hum via component wiring is what’s known in the audio engineer world as a “Pin 1 Problem”. A quick Google search will turn up more than a few websites with great graphics, explaining how to safely remedy or avoid this issue, especially if you are building an instrument. Nature isn’t fooled one bit-it knows that any length of wire connected to a circuit is better known as an “antenna”. Whatever solution you come up with, please, do NOT under any conditions cut off the ground/earth prong of a plug! This can easily result in your new CBG having 120/240 volts of electricity right at your fingertips.

  3. Hi
    If your using a practice amp or rather your about to buy one Avoid ac circuits go instead for DC I personally use a 9 v dc power unit with a 10 watt output No buzz with this fella .

  4. it used to be that all my builds would hum to some extent, but nowadays-silence. ‘How?’, you ask. I do this as part of the build now, rather than build and hope there isn’t any hum at the end. First thing is complely shield inside the box including the lid and through-neck. I use ordinary aluminium cooking foil and glue it down with some slightly watered-down pva glue. Make sure there are no gaps-imagine it as if you took away all the box, you would have a complete, sealed cooking foil box left behind. Then, carry on with the build, until the point where every metal part that comes through the box to the inside is done – screws holding the bridge down perhaps. Any metal that comes through. Where they come through, check the foil is ok-stick more bits of foil over holes and tears. Paint inside if you dont want to see the foil through the sound hole. It mentions grounding above-i ‘star grounding’ – in other words, pick one common point, and connect with a piece of wire, every piece of metal you have that comes into the box to the common point. Solder or twist, whatever, but make sure each end of each wire is held firmly in place. Hence the name ‘star’-all wires coming to one point. As it says in the article the strings must be included somehow-i always make my own bridges and screw or bolt them down so thats what i use to take the ground for the strings. Also, wrap the piezo to jack wires in foil and take a ground from that to the star as well. Once thats done, take a wire from the star’s common point and solder it to the ground on the jack socket-the jack sleeve, not the jack tip connector. Same one the piezo brass plate’s wire goes to. I usually twist the two and then solder as one. Make sure the foil isnt touching any connection that can short circuit your harness. Including any of the piezo body-ceramic ring and brass plate. Make sure all the wires going to the star are fixed firmly. check solder joints are goodand insulated. Plug into the amp and listen to the silence! I know sweet fa about electrics, so this is probably ott, but it works for me! If you still have noise, open the amp up and shield that too, but be careful in there as theres real electric that will kill you. While in there, make sure the mains earth is firmly connected to the chassis. If its a tube amp, dont go in unless you are an expert. Get an expert to do it for you. Those mothers are dangerous, period! Hope this helps! Love and peace from, ‘ viper rado’ aka mark tek

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