Zero Frets – How and Why to Use Them on Cigar Box Guitars

Zero frets are an awesome addition to any cigar box guitar or other homemade/handmade instrument builder’s toolbag. In this how-to article, C. B. Gitty walks you though zero frets on cigar box guitars: what a zero fret is, why you’d want to use one, and how to go about installing your first one.

This photo shows a fretted cigar box guitar with a zero fret installed. We'll be showing you how (and why) to do this in this article.
This photo shows a fretted cigar box guitar with a zero fret installed. We’ll be showing you how (and why) to do this in this article.

The Zero Fret is an arcane subject to many cigar box guitar builders. I have to confess, for a long time they were a mystery to me too. Sure I had heard of them, seen pictures of people using them, and thought I understood most of the concept – but for some reason, I still always shied away from using one. That is, until Shane Speal finally beat it through my stubborn skull that we needed to start using them in the C. B. Gitty shop, and once we tried it we didn’t look back.

So this article is my effort to help everyone realize the benefits of using a zero fret setup on their cigar box guitar builds. It may not be for everyone, but my hope is that you’ll consider giving it a try. I’ll break this article down into three clear sections: What is a Zero Fret; Why to Use a Zero Fret; and How to Install a Zero Fret.

What is a Zero Fret?

Most simply stated, a zero fret is an extra piece of fretwire, usually a couple of sizes bigger than what you’re using on the rest of the fretboard, which gets installed up at the top of the fretboard where the nut would usually go. 

In our workshop, we usually use either our Medium/Medium nickel-silver fretwire or our Medium/High nickel-silver fretwire on the instruments we build. So for our zero frets, we will use a larger fretwire, most often our standard Jumbo nickel-silver. The jumbo wire’s crown is about 0.014″ higher than the Medium/Medium, and 0.012″ higher than the Medium/High, and we feel that this helps make sure that the action height work better and minimize buzzing in the strings. Other builders use the same size fret wire for the zero fret as they do for the rest of the frets. Check out the photo below.

Zero fret on a cigar box guitar diagram
This photo shows the zero fret, and first fret on a fretted cigar box guitar neck. Note the height difference between the zero and first frets, and also note the gap between the string and the first fret.

In the photo you can clearly see that the zero fret is a larger profile than the first fret (jumbo vs. medium), and you can also see the effect – a pronounced gap between the strings and the first fret. This gap is what is technically  referred to as the “action” or “action height” of the guitar, and keeping it as low as possible is very important to having a well-made and easy-to-play cigar box guitar. As mentioned above, some builders prefer to use the same size of fret wire for the zero fret as they  do on the rest of the fretboard – it’s not what we do, but there’s no question that it can work just as well. We advise trying both and seeing what works for you!

The other things you can see in the above photo are small screws that are used as string retainers, to make sure the strings stay in the right places , and at a good angle, as they cross over the zero fret. More on this below.

Why Use a Zero Fret?

As mentioned above, to build a fretted cigar box guitar that a professional musician will want to play, you have to pay very close attention to the “action height” – that is, the height of the strings off of the frets. You want it to be as low as possible, but not so low that you get buzzing or rattling from the strings when played.

This photo shows an example of a standard bone nut in use on a four-string cigar box guitar.
This photo shows an example of a standard bone nut in use on a four-string cigar box guitar.

Traditionally, the job of determining the action height on a guitar is done by the nut. Most often on store-bought guitars, nuts are made from bone, but they can also be made from plastic, wood, metal or synthetic materials like Corian.

The nut is glued into place at the top of the fretboard, and filed/sanded down to the right height, and then grooves for the strings are filed in to help keep the strings in the right position. As such, the nut both sets the action height (the height of the strings off the frets), as well as setting the spacing and position of the strings across the fretboard.

The problem with a nut is that it takes some skill and finesse to get them shaped just right, and at the right height, and with the string grooves just so. Of course if you file it too far down, there’s no going back – you have to remove it and start over with a new one. It is just way too easy to end up with an instrument with high action, which is not very fun to play and may even intonate badly, when using nuts.

Enter the Zero Fret – when you use a zero fret, you are pretty much guaranteed that your action height will be pretty much perfect. A good rule of thumb concerning action height on a guitar is that the gap between the strings and the first fret should be about 0.80mm – which just happens to be the thickness of a standard medium guitar pick. If you use jumbo or even one of the higher-profile medium gauges as your zero fret, and one of the standard medium-height fret wires (around 0.040″ to 0.045″ crown height) as the rest of your frets, you will definitely be in this ballpark.

Here is another angle of a zero fret installed on a cigar box guitar. This particular guitar featured an angled headstock, so the retainer screws are just holding the strings in the correct position, not holding them down to increase break angle.
Here is another angle of a zero fret installed on a cigar box guitar. This particular guitar featured an angled headstock, so the retainer screws are just holding the strings in the correct position, not holding them down to increase break angle.

One caveat with a zero fret is that you do need to install some hardware to help keep the strings in place. Depending on your headstock design (angled verses recessed) this hardware might also need to serve the task of holding the strings down, so that they will have some “break angle” as they go up and over the zero fret. See the photo below for a visual of what break angle is.

There are various styles of string retainers that can be used for this, but on C. B. Gitty cigar box guitars we usually use small round-headed screws for this purpose (as shown in the photos above and to the right).

How to Install Your First Zero Fret

Assuming that you have read everything above, there shouldn’t be too much mystery left as to how you should go about installing your first zero fret on a cigar box guitar. Here is the outline of steps to follow:

  • Get yourself some larger fret wire, such as our Jumbo profile.
  • When cutting your fret slots, cut a slot exactly on the nut line (usually you wouldn’t cut this, when using a nut). The slot can be sawn with the same saw as the rest of them.
  • Install one piece of the larger fret wire  in the slot you cut at the nut line, and use the smaller fretwire for the rest of the frets.
  • Smooth and dress the frets as you usually would, including the larger zero fret.
  • When you get to the point of stringing your guitar, figure out where your strings will go, and where your string retainers/retaining screws should be placed. See the photos above for an idea of where we place them on a 3-string guitar. Remember that you want the retainer to both hold the string in the correct position in relation to the neck, as well as (if necessary) help hold the string down a bit so that it has to angle back up to cross the zero fret.
  • The photo below helps show how retaining screws can be used on a cigar box guitar that has a recessed (instead of angled) headstock. The screws actually pull the strings downward from where they come off the tuner posts, so that they approach the nut (or zero fret) at a sharper angle. This photo happens to show an unfretted guitar with a threaded rod nut, but the principle is the same when using a zero fret. This sharper angle helps the guitar sound and intonate better (too low of an angle and the strings might buzz or vibrate).
This photo shows how retaining screws can be used to adjust the "break angle" of the strings - the angle at which they cross over the nut/zero fret. While this photo shows an unfretted cigar box guitar that uses a threaded rod nut, the same concept applies to a guitar using a zero fret.
This photo shows how retaining screws can be used to adjust the “break angle” of the strings – the angle at which they cross over the nut/zero fret. While this photo shows an unfretted cigar box guitar that uses a threaded rod nut, the same concept applies to a guitar using a zero fret.


You should now be able to string and tune your guitar, and your zero fret should be giving you pretty much optimal action height. The added step of having to use string retainers is a small price to pay compared to the hassle of installing and filing down a nut and getting it just right.

Zero frets, properly used, guarantee good string action height every time, and at least in the C. B. Gitty shops we have switched over to them for pretty much all of our Farmington Road Instrument Works cigar box guitars.

I hope that this article helps you better understand what a zero fret is, why you’d want to use them, and how to go about doing so. Please feel free to post comments or send questions, so that I can revise, expand and add to this article!

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29 thoughts on “Zero Frets – How and Why to Use Them on Cigar Box Guitars”

  1. Hi Glenn ,I am a young 77 year old and I have 6 c b g on the go plus 1 Gittylele.I have learned a lot from your one finger lessons and I have purchased all my supplies from CBG. Keep up the lessons you are good.

  2. Bone nuts look alot better on a build but after 16 CBG builds I’m going with the zero fret at.052.
    I’ll see what happens on my current build

  3. Hello, Randy. It’s good to read that this information is beneficial for you. It’s also good to read that you’ve built your own cigar box guitar. Isn’t it a great feeling to strum it, hear the sound, and know that you are the one who put it all together? Also, thank you for including one of our mag pups in your build. We’re proud of what we carry and appreciate that you supported us by using one of our products. Thank you for your time and kindness, Randy.

  4. Thank you , this information is very helpful as I’m building my first guitar. Didn’t buy cigar box built my on and have your magnetic 3 pole pickup for it . Thanks again

  5. Put a zero fret on my first CBG and it works great (wonder why regular guitars don’t use them). You’d want a higher fret if you want to do slide work, though. For better intonation, make the zero-to-one fret distance slightly less (maybe 0.015″) than the calculation says. This allows for the pitch being slightly higher when you fret a note due to the string bending.

  6. This is a cool idea, but I’m hard-pressed to buy six feet of jumbo fret just to use 1.5 inches on each CBG. What if you offered “enhanced” kits of medium/medium wire that contained a single piece of jumbo wire in them, for say another $2 or something?

  7. Any chance of see zero fret becoming part of the neck and fret board production line at C.B. Gitty?…I definitely would order a few if the Gitty workshop started offering them as part of their parts inventory.

  8. I made a one string canjo using the zero fret and it’s a suberb contraption! No need to find and measure a bolt, just use a bigger fret!! Thanks C. B. Gitty!!!

  9. The reason I use a fret zero is so that I can more accurately lay out the frets on my fretboards. On all my instruments I build using a discrete fretboard that is later glued onto the neck. I do this as a kind of insurance policy in case I should screw up the fretting, I won’t be wrecking the rest of the instrument. If I mess up, I just start over again with a fresh fretboard blank. The fretboard also raises my strings above the neck allowing for a better break-angle over the nut (which I still use to maintain string separation).

    Before I became wise to the idea of a fret 0, I was always worried about the accuracy of spacing between the nut and fret 1, as being inaccurate in the placement of the nut relative to the rest of the fretboard would mess up the intonation of the whole instrument. But, if you use a fret 0, you can rest a lot more well assured that the intonation of your instrument will be good as all the frets were measure out in relation to a know point (fret 0) rather than a guesstimate based upon eye-balling how wide your nut is (be it a real nut made of bone or hardwood, or a machine bolt), then using half that measurement, and hoping for the best. Using a fret 0 also allows you to more freely switch between nuts (bolts) for optimal fit without having to worry about messing up the intonation.

  10. I am new to building CBG am currently building two, I appreciate that a low action is desirable when fretting notes as have a Strat & a Tele both set up with low action. However with the CGB`s all my research indicates that as I want to both fret notes and use a slide that a higher action is preferred ( will be using fretted necks on both builds)I have been told that need up to 5-6 mil at the 12th fret and at least 2-3 mm at the third fret
    So am now pretty much confused ? any assistance would be very much appreciated

  11. I’ve built 4 CB banjos and 1 CB ukulele using zero frets. Check them out on CB Nation. I used one size larger fret wire. I’ve built and installed bone nuts for string spacing on all of them. The zero fret takes a lot of work from the build and works great!

  12. Pps… You get the same tone …string on metal …as opposed to string on nut material whether playing open or fretted notes. Mike … The end!!

  13. I use a zero fret on all my builds and renovations. I always use the same size fretwire for the zero as for the rest. The action is always fine. Check out my YouTube builds ….. Search for Mjlyam. Cheers mike

  14. I have been using zero frets on everything for a few years, CBGs, ukes, pickin’ sticks, etc, and always pleased with the result. .045 crown for the zero fret and .039 for the rest. If I use a glued on fretboard I will often leave about 3-4 mm of wood beyond the zero fret. I will then glue on nut material at the end and cut the slots down to the fretboard. This false nut only acts as a string guide. I also cut the the slots the same width as the string diameters so that there is no side play.

  15. many quality guitars made in Europe even back in the 50’s had zero frets. Great playing guitars. They were able to get a very low and comfortable action more easily. American companies started giving them a bad rap as cheap build to get people to buy theirs. Try it and you will love it.

  16. I’ll be trying this on one of the builds I have going right now! John Nickel was explaining zero frets to me, during the Huntsville festival. Thanks for the reminder to try it!

  17. As I understand it, some guitar makers used the same size fret, others used a larger one. At least in the C. B. Gitty shop, we like using a zero fret that is a couple of sizes bigger, but clearly either method will work. I recommend trying both!

  18. I am not having too much trouble with the planning, cutting and finishing of traditional nuts. I do believe that I read of Jeff Beck using something like this as his preferred nut because of the hard bending and whammy bar action that wears a nut out quickly. I like the simple elegance of the Zero Fret and will do one soon.

  19. Thought the zero fret is suppose to be the same height as the other frets. I’m getting ready to fret a board.

    The idea was if you used a capo at the first fret the first fret becomes a zero fret and the second fret doesn’t buzz. Yet the first and second height are the same height.

    I am asking.

  20. Thank you for the feedback Glenn! Someone on another forum pointed out that zero frets have long had a bad rap amongst guitarists, because in the past they had mostly been used on cheaper guitars, possibly as a way to reduce production costs. To me, that seems like a great pedigree to make them perfect for cigar box guitar builders!

  21. Excellent article!

    I have only once used a zero fret and it was to great effect. The action on that guitar was as close to perfect as I have come without any of the stress of filing a bone nut.

    While I won’t give up on nuts that require filing, the zero nut is something that has not only proven easy to use but effective as well.

    …must try again soon…

    Thank you for sharing this valuable information. Super helpful.

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